The worst consultation ever?

Hi, so to get a better picture of where i’m coming from it may help if i share my experience so far..
Due to an eating disorder through puberty, i’ve always been flat chested. Going through secondary school i felt so self conscious and aware that i basically had no boobs but i knew that as soon as i turned 18, i’d have a boob job.
However, at 17, i found out i was pregnant and ended up starting my family. Fast forward 7 years and i’m now married with 3 children in total all with my husband. I’m totally done with having children now though, and despite having absolutely enormous boobs when i was breast feeding, i’m basically back to nothing again. It really does affect my life as i feel i can’t go swimming and wear bikinis and i don’t like most tops as i think it highlights how little i have in that area.
So just before Christmas i decided to go for it. I had my first consultation in Nottingham with my PC and arranged to have my surgeon consultation Jan 11th (the monday just gone). I also arranged for my surgery date to be Jan 22nd. I figured i’ve waited about 10 years for this, so i don’t want to waste another second.

So Monday, i arrived at the clinic and it was super busy and i guess everything was running late. I eventually went in to see Mr Kazzazi who i’d been assigned to as i was after a natural look. I have to honest, i found the whole thing horrible. For someone that doesn’t like to look at my own chest in the mirror, i found it really hard having a stranger stood there judging me and prodding me.
But what really got me is what he said. He looked at me and tutted and told me i was smaller than an A (i’ve never been for a bra fitting and as my boobs have changed so much in size throughout breast feeding, i didn’t see much point. I was wearing a size A bra that day which fitted really well so i told him i was an A).
He then asked me if i’d had children and how many, and that they’d ruined my skin. (naturally from going to barely there to huge during pregnancy, my skin has done a fair amount of stretching).
He also said i have barely any breast tissue and that i would have a wide cleavage which can’t be corrected. He then wrote me down as High Risk and said i would most likely have rippling. He said he’d give me 250cc under the muscle which would get me maybe to a B cup… He also added that there wasn’t much he could do but would try his best. Everything he said was in such an accusing tone. As if he was telling me off and it was somehow my fault. He made me feel so guilty about my boobs. I already hate them so to have someone telling me everything i already know, it was just really hard.

I then got redressed and sent back to the waiting room as i was meant to be having my pre op afterwards. About 40 minutes later i was eventually called in to another room and spoke to a different PC who said Mr Kazzazi wants to see me again for another consultation so that i have time to decide if i still want to go ahead and to make sure that he himself is sure of his decision. Because of this, they could no longer book me in for surgery on the 22nd and the next available appointment would now be in February. I had no choice in the matter and was then told to go home and come in again next week.

So i cried all the way home and a little bit the next day. And it’s taken me up until now to finally start thinking about what to do next. I just really need some advice. I was hoping to go to a C which i thought was quite modest as most people seem to go straight to a D. And he’s given me so many negatives, should i still proceed? I just want a pair of normal boobs but i don’t want to look disfigured or like there’s two massive blobs stuck on either side of my body.

It just sounds like he really doesn’t want to work on me. Although at the end of our consultation he said i could ask for another surgeons opinion but he thinks i should go with him.

I’m just so confused. I’ve not read a single story yet about a bad experience during the consultancy stage. I’m so gutted i have to wait another 3 weeks for surgery and have to waste more of my time driving to the surgery again next week to go through the same humiliating process as this week.

Please, and advise is welcome! x x

Oh no what a bad experience!!! 🙁 Sounds like he has been very insensitive and Rude towards you!!! Don’t know if this is any help but I had surgery yesterday with mr traynor and sounds like you might be like me I breastfed my son and I ended up a 34aa, literally hardly any boobs left at all didn’t even fill the AA cup! Mr traynor has done a fantastic job with me so maybe he would be better for you? I have pictures on my profile if you would like to have a look xxx

Heyy hun! I know how you feel in a way i haven’t had kids myself but i hated my boobs and i was 30a so more or less nothing at all i don’t have any before picture’s for you to look at but i do have after ones? I had 300cc and went to D/DD depending on the bra i get and where it comes from as every shop is different…i went with mr traynor who i couldn’t fault if i tried!

I will say though he is very blunt and gets to point but that is what i wanted i didn’t want anyone sugar coating it as it is a huge thing to change your body ect…maybe go see him he might say different and explain what mr kaxxaxi said hope this helps xxx

If you need a female point of view ask for Linda Fiumara she is so lovely, very out spoken and prefer the natural look, she makes you feel comfortable! I was with Mr Singh originally and he didn’t make me feel comfortable I ask to change and my pc set me up with Mrs Fiumara she is amazing x

Have you had any consultations anywhere else?
I had my heart set on mya, my first consultation was a complete disaster!! I was horrified with the service I received from Mya.

I seen me Kazzazi also on the same day he was brill with me, told me I was a c bigger than I thought and I didn’t need a ba! I wanted a DD and he told me he could achieve to his best but wasn’t happy to give me more than 325cc which I was happy with.

You may be best to see another surgeon, they all think differently and all do the surgery different so. It was probably just that he didn’t want to take any risks. I would defo say get another opinion though. Hope you get the outcome you was hoping for, don’t let it upset you chick! xx

Hi Hannah, I can totally understand your feelings on this, the exact same happened to me, I came away feeling really upset and deflated and thought I don’t think I will bother with BA after all, I was offered 250cc and was hoping for 350cc. Very disappointed. However my PC who is really lovely suggested seeing another surgeon and managed to get me in a few days later. This was Dr Andrea, and my what a difference! He was fabulous, complimentary and kind, made me feel ‘normal’ said I could go up to 350cc, showed me pics of others he had done. Really great, lovely man. Completely different, I felt so much better and excited again. definitely see someone else, this is something you have wanted for so long, don’t let that experience put you off. You will look amazing once it’s done, everyone I’ve seen comes out looking so good, it makes me jealous! Just hope I can have the same one day 🙂 chin up, don’t give up! Xxx

Try Mr Mounir Hun, I had a very similar experience with mr Kazzazi and left so unhappy, but Mounir was fabulous and I’m now 4 weeks post op with Mounir

Hi Hannah sorry to hear how your feeling.i had a similar experience with him but I’ve been told that’s just the way he is,straight to the point.ive also seen some of his work on here and it looks amazing.hope you don’t mind the add Hun we have similar stats and my clinic was Nottingham too so would be great to chat :)xx

Hi shantell added you Hun hope you don’t mind.i tried to private message first as I know some girls prefer that but I’m useless with this site lol.hope you are well :)xx

Hi xjessx and Rebekah added you ladies hope you don’t mind :)xx

I have just had this experience with Mr Kazzazi which left me feeling so deflated. I am now booked in to see Mr Mounir next week so hoping i will come out feeling happier!

I had Mr. Traynor today and he is extremely straight to the point with no bedside manner but he is good at what he does and I went in expecting that.

I will say though, all bras are different, I used to bra fit and I know from experience of girls coming in crying because they’d asked for a specific size and ended up in a bigger bra than they anticipated. Surgeons cant really know all bra sizes as silly as that sounds. I was told today I was an A-B cup, I literally spill out of B cups let alone A’s so I know I’m a C by bra size standards and even then some C’s leave me spilling. Don’t think too much about the bra size you’ve been told you can achieve, think more about the implants you’ve tried in the bra they give you and how that looks and feels dont think heavily about wanting to be this specific size.

Hi Ladies!

Firstly, thanks for all your support, i really needed it! I didn’t really want to reply until after i’d had my second consultation with Kazzazi which was yesterday. I thought a lot about having a second opinion from another surgeon as quite a few of you recommended, but i thought i’d wait to see how my second appointment went first.

This time i think i felt a little more comfortable and relaxed just because i knew it couldn’t have been worse than last time. He measured me again and then said that the 250cc he offered me last time would still be too big. So he wanted me to have 225cc instead, which would take me to a small B apparently. I was initially quite disappointed as i felt like i’d be spending all this money to come out with the results that most people seem to start with. And i really wasn’t expecting him to say smaller. But he was adamant that the 250cc would cause rippling and be too big for my frame.

I was asked if i wanted a second opinion but to be honest, i’ve not seen any bad work from Kazzazi and as he’s the proffesional and it’s within my best interest, then i’m inclined to agree with what he’s told me. So i signed the forms and i’ve got my op booked for Feb 5th (still feels like a lifetime away!!)

I also went in with a pc afterwards and tried the 225 on. They looked fine to be honest and she said any bigger and they proabbly wouldn’t suit my frame as it’s quite small. Although i have to say that it was hard to tell with the bra being absolutely enormous and because i’m going under the muscle, i know i’ll lose quite a bit of size too.

Basically, i’m putting all my trust into Kazzazi’s opinion and hoping for the best. Any boob is better than no boob right!

Anyway, thank you everyone for being so lovely and supportive. I hope i’ve made the right decision by sticking with the same surgeon. I’ll hopefully keep you updated on the results. Oh and if anyone by some miracle has had 225cc under the muscle on a small frame, PLEASE post a picture for me so i can feel more re-assured. 🙂

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